Logan, Jeanette (interview)

Logan, Jeanette (interview)

Analyze the experience on the University of Ottawa campus during the 1970s.

Yuanming Tian

Microsoft Teams

2023-10-26

MP4, 42 minutes

English

oral history

Yuanming Tian

Jeannette Logan

Ottawa, Ontario, Canada (via Microsoft team)

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Yuanming Tian
OK。
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Yuanming Tian
I want the interval question section one per。
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Yuanming Tian
um，section one，um。，um。
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Yuanming Tian
Impact，impact popular。
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Yuanming Tian
Popular。
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Yuanming Tian
Culture。
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Yuanming Tian
In impact impact，the popular culture。
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Yuanming Tian
Yeah。
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Jeannette Logan
If are you saying impact IMPACT impact？
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Yuanming Tian
Yeah yeah impact。
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Jeannette Logan
Of popular culture。
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Yuanming Tian
OK。
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Yuanming Tian
um，let me see。
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Yuanming Tian
um？
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Yuanming Tian
There were these。
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Yuanming Tian
OK，，what，what？Where the most popular，uh，huh？Hang out sport spores on sports on of campus。
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Jeannette Logan
What were the most popular？
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Yuanming Tian
Hung hung uh hung out。
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Jeannette Logan
Hey Hangouts。
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Jeannette Logan
But。
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Yuanming Tian
Ohh yeah，yeah。Yeah。How to spots spots on？Yeah，an of a campus。
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Yuanming Tian
二一。
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Jeannette Logan
Ohh，my goodness，what so when when I was at university，what were the popular Hangouts？
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Yuanming Tian
Yeah yeah，uh，University of Ottawa in，uh，one。
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Yuanming Tian
What？
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Yuanming Tian
Nineteen seventies nineteen seven nineteen seventies。
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Jeannette Logan
In the nineteen seventies，popular Hangouts where？
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Jeannette Logan
For bars。
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Yuanming Tian
Ohh yeah。
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Jeannette Logan
Usually bars that had music。
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Jeannette Logan
Musicians playing in in the in the bars，and sometimes it was very loud and it was hard to talk。
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Yuanming Tian
OK，you can see anything because we have a lot of time。
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Yuanming Tian
um？
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Yuanming Tian
OK。
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Jeannette Logan
But I also，I also was involved with um activities where I would meet other people such as I sang and acquire with other people，and I did some。
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Jeannette Logan
With other people。
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Jeannette Logan
And。
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Jeannette Logan
I like to go to a cultural events like such as concerts and。
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Jeannette Logan
Art galleries。
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Yuanming Tian
OK sounds good。
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Yuanming Tian
OK。
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Yuanming Tian
Next next question，did you attend any leave music events during you university years？
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Jeannette Logan
Did I attend what？
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Yuanming Tian
Music。
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Yuanming Tian
Let me see music。
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Yuanming Tian
Events，yeah，music events，music events。
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Jeannette Logan
Musical events yes。
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Yuanming Tian
um？
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Jeannette Logan
II attended lots of rock concerts。
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Yuanming Tian
OK。
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Jeannette Logan
Huge rock concerts with。
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Jeannette Logan
But with hundreds of people sometimes outside if it was in the summer。
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Yuanming Tian
OK。
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Jeannette Logan
I attended a concert for Three Dog Night。I remember that。
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Jeannette Logan
Also folk folk music，I like folk music as well。
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Jeannette Logan
Gordon Lightfoot I'm pretty sure was even singing that then。
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Yuanming Tian
OK no problem。
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Yuanming Tian
um，I sent you this this interval question in mailbox in，communicate in，communicate box。You can see this question because I because I。
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Yuanming Tian
um。You can see communicate。Uh，you can you can see communicateumcommunicate box because II send you this interval question word。
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Jeannette Logan
Sorry，I didn't。I didn't get that you were saying something about communication。
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Yuanming Tian
Communication boxum。
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Yuanming Tian
Let me see。
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Yuanming Tian
um。
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Yuanming Tian
um？
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Yuanming Tian
Or chat chat you can see chat。
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Jeannette Logan
Ohh，I had to type。
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Yuanming Tian
Yeah。
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Jeannette Logan
Ohh，well，to be honest，I didn't do much typing。
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Jeannette Logan
Everything。What was happening back then？
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Jeannette Logan
Because，uh，if things needed to be typed，I had a secretary who typed typed。
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Jeannette Logan
Well，I learned I learned，um。
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Jeannette Logan
I learned how to type，you're perfectly right。I wasn't a good typist，but I did learn how to type。
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Jeannette Logan
What did they call it？
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Jeannette Logan
Like with with just with two two fingers not with all my fingers and I had to learn that when I got the job as a technical writer，that's right，OK？So when I became a technical writer，I had to learn how to type things and we had。
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Jeannette Logan
So we had a central computer。I remember that。
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Jeannette Logan
And we you，could you？
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Jeannette Logan
You could correct all your mistakes。I remember you learn how to correct your mistakes anyway。
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Jeannette Logan
But to be honest，I think I used to write out my texts in longhand first and my and the secretary would type it in for the first time and then I would edit it afterwards。That's what that was。What happened at the beginning？We didn't have personal computers。
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Yuanming Tian
OK。
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Jeannette Logan
I didn't have a personal computer for quite some time。I don't think，certainly not in the nineteen seventies。
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Yuanming Tian
OKumII send you a document in chat that's，that's，I mean，because I I'm afraid I will cause you to have a problem understanding，so I send I send this document in team team uh team uh in team chat。
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Jeannette Logan
You want to send me a document？
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Yuanming Tian
Yeah，yeah，I have sent you document in team chat，you can see。
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Jeannette Logan
Just a minute。
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Yuanming Tian
Yeah yeah。
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Yuanming Tian
In chat document this is all interval question because I am afraid I will cause you have a problem to understand，so I send you this document that that's，I mean。
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Yuanming Tian
Team chat。
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Jeannette Logan
I'm I'm looking on my phone to see if I see any。
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Jeannette Logan
You，you set you say you sent me some documents。
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Yuanming Tian
um。
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Yuanming Tian
You，you，you can see it。
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Yuanming Tian
I send you again。
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Jeannette Logan
Okay。
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Yuanming Tian
I send you OKOKOKOKOK。
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Jeannette Logan
Ohh，OK，but I thought something you sent me。
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Yuanming Tian
OK。
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Jeannette Logan
Then maybe stopping。
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Jeannette Logan
No，that's not bad。
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Jeannette Logan
Yeah。
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Jeannette Logan
Confidentiality。
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Jeannette Logan
Conversation participants。
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Yuanming Tian
um？
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Yuanming Tian
Do you see it？
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Jeannette Logan
I was starting to think maybe there was some。
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Jeannette Logan
Thank you for me。
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Jeannette Logan
I haven't found anything。
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Jeannette Logan
I haven't found anything here。
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Yuanming Tian
I sent you document inumin team in team chat。
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Yuanming Tian
um。Can you see it？
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Jeannette Logan
Ohh，it says just。
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Jeannette Logan
Why is it？No。
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Jeannette Logan
Ohh dear。
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Yuanming Tian
Chat box chat box。
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Yuanming Tian
Chat chat box in team。
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Yuanming Tian
II send you document about interval question to understand。
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Yuanming Tian
I send this the document in chat box in chat box in team。
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Jeannette Logan
Yeah，are you talking about question？
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Jeannette Logan
You you。
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Yuanming Tian
um，document。um，Adobe document about interval question。
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Jeannette Logan
Did you just send it now？
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Yuanming Tian
Yeah。
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Yuanming Tian
No，no，just now I send you。
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Jeannette Logan
Did you send it by e-mail？
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Yuanming Tian
No no no um chat box chat box in uh chat box in in in team。
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Yuanming Tian
You，you can。Yeah，you can see in team。
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Jeannette Logan
You checked，you checked it out in in teams。
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Yuanming Tian
Ohh yeah yeah。
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Jeannette Logan
Enjoy。
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Yuanming Tian
You can see chat box，um？
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Yuanming Tian
I can't e-mail to you。
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Jeannette Logan
OK。
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Yuanming Tian
um，but you could，um，but you，um，decor decorally to。
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Yuanming Tian
To see in bug in chat box in team。
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Jeannette Logan
So you're going to send me an e-mail，is that what you said？
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Yuanming Tian
Yeah，I sent you。
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Yuanming Tian
Are you see it？
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Yuanming Tian
This is all interval question，uh，are you see it？
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Jeannette Logan
So I don't see it yet。
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Yuanming Tian
II have send。
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Yuanming Tian
um，so I want，哎。So I want to continue my interval question。
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Yuanming Tian
偶太偶taiwa was a。
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Yuanming Tian
Was be。
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Yuanming Tian
Let me see。
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Yuanming Tian
Whatever is the one？
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Yuanming Tian
Bilingual or whatever is a bilingual school。How？
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Yuanming Tian
As because I want I afraid you don't understand，so I send you e-mail，can you see it？
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Jeannette Logan
You're sending me an e-mail？
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Yuanming Tian
Yeah。
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Jeannette Logan
Add it。
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Yuanming Tian
对okok okokok。
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Yuanming Tian
This is all interval question，um，just now II ask two questions。
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Yuanming Tian
You can，yeah。
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Yuanming Tian
um？
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Jeannette Logan
It says the main question is cultural historians have argued that television，Hollywood，popular music and a consumer culture built around automobiles created a more integrated North American popular culture otta。
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Jeannette Logan
Bilingual institution，and we want to better understand how anglophones and francophones related together。
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Jeannette Logan
There was less electronics and Canadian society during the Seventies。How？
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Jeannette Logan
Pleasure time structured。
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Yuanming Tian
OK。
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Jeannette Logan
And what did students do for fun in the nineteen seventies？OK so II answered，the one about the hang up hangout spots。
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Yuanming Tian
Yeah yeah，yeah，I know。
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Yuanming Tian
You answer two questions。Yeah。
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Jeannette Logan
Yeah and live a music？Yes，yes，we had lots of live music，which was great。
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Jeannette Logan
Now you're saying that Ottawa was a bilingual institution。
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Jeannette Logan
Back in the back in the Seventies，I mean，I studied。I studied French and high school。
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Jeannette Logan
But it was only when did I start？
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Jeannette Logan
Actually，I started studying French。
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Jeannette Logan
At in the evening classes again in in about nineteen seventy five。
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Jeannette Logan
And I。
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Jeannette Logan
I took conversational French classes。
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Jeannette Logan
And then in the early eighties，I。
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Jeannette Logan
I joined a sailing group where we most of the members were francophone，so I started really improving my French by the nineteen eighties and now I am fully bilingual。
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Jeannette Logan
I can read and write in in French。
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Yuanming Tian
OK sounds good。
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Yuanming Tian
um？
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Yuanming Tian
OK。
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Jeannette Logan
Did anglophones and francophones date each other during the nineteen seventies。
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Jeannette Logan
Probably not very much。
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Yuanming Tian
um？
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Jeannette Logan
I didn't have any。
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Jeannette Logan
Francophone boyfriends that I'm aware of，I don't think so。
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Jeannette Logan
Use the park party culture。
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Jeannette Logan
One of the things I remember in the in the nineteen seventies was。
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Jeannette Logan
I was not a member of a sorority or a fraternity，but a lot of the boys wear and they used to have what they call these frat parties。
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Jeannette Logan
At the frat house fraternity house，and they were really。
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Jeannette Logan
There was a lot of drinking alcohol in those places and in those days I did not drink very much。Thank goodness，but I certainly remember。
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Jeannette Logan
The some of the boys getting very，very drunk。I remember something called purple Jesus it was。It was a type of alcohol that they mixed with grape juice and it was horrible。
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Jeannette Logan
So I did not drink very much of it，but other people did，um，the other thing I remember was wine。
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Jeannette Logan
Very sweet in those days，people drank very sweet wine，which I do not like it all and now I get very dry wine now。
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Yuanming Tian
Yeah，I know，okay？
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Jeannette Logan
All the Vietnam War that。
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Jeannette Logan
Was an issue。
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Jeannette Logan
We had。
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Jeannette Logan
Young men that were called draft dodgers，they came up to Canada and I certainly knew some draft dodgers。
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Jeannette Logan
In the Seventies。
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Jeannette Logan
And one place where I worked，yes，that was in the Seventies we had some draft dodgers that were employed at at the at the I worked at the Ontario Science Center，and we had some American young men working there in the audio visual department。I remember that。
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Jeannette Logan
Yeah，the Vietnam War that was awful。
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Jeannette Logan
I remember a cousin of mine and who lives in the states，was drafted，but thank goodness he had flat feet for the so they didn't accept them as a soldier，so he didn't have to go to Vietnam。But I remember。
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Yuanming Tian
um？
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Yuanming Tian
Okay。
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Jeannette Logan
Oh rock and roll that was very big。Um。
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Jeannette Logan
The friends who are in a rock and roll band and these were friends from from from my high school back in Perry sound and。
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Jeannette Logan
They had AA band in the beginning called the Georgian four，which was named after a Georgian Bay。That's where we came from near Georgia Bay and then later on they actually recorded music under the name chemos DHIMO。And if you go on to YouTube today，you can hear chemo。
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Jeannette Logan
Now。
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Yuanming Tian
um？
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Yuanming Tian
OK thanks。
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Jeannette Logan
Youth culture。
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Yuanming Tian
Yeah。
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Jeannette Logan
Um，there was。I wasn't aware of any kind of drugs other than cigarettes。Cigarettes were all my goodness when I talked about the bars，that was one of the worst things about the bars that was so smoky，it was awful。I did。I never smoked。
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Jeannette Logan
So I guess I probably tried a little marijuana now and then，but I didn't really。
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Yuanming Tian
Yeah，and。
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Jeannette Logan
I didn't really adopt any drugs at all。
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Yuanming Tian
Yeah，I think。
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Jeannette Logan
But I do remember to talk about psychedelic drugs like LSD。That was。
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Jeannette Logan
Talked about，but I was not familiar of any。
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Jeannette Logan
Any um use of LSD in my friend。
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Jeannette Logan
Now the next section is called the female experience。
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Yuanming Tian
Yeah，female experience。
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Jeannette Logan
It says cultural historian to written a lot about what they call the second wave feminism。
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Yuanming Tian
um？
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Jeannette Logan
That as part of the counter coach of movement women during this early seventies，sought to breakdown gender barriers。Does this argument resonate with your experience？Yes，very much so。
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Jeannette Logan
I was certainly a。
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Jeannette Logan
A woman of that second wave feminism，I read a lot about it。
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Jeannette Logan
I never changed my name。Jeanette Logan is my birthday，even though I have been be。
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Jeannette Logan
II never changed my name。I always thought it was important to keep my own identity。I always had my own bank accounts。
0:21:55.460 --> 0:21:58.580
Jeannette Logan
That was important，but also in the nineteen seventy。
0:21:59.700 --> 0:22:14.340
Jeannette Logan
We were leading up to the the royal Commission on the status of women in the nineteen seventies here in Canada，and those were very important women to us。They。
0:22:14.560 --> 0:22:17.640
Jeannette Logan
The way to to our freedom。
0:22:19.400 --> 0:22:21.520
Jeannette Logan
Or，our independent。That's right that way。
0:22:23.240 --> 0:22:43.240
Jeannette Logan
And in nineteen seventy five，that was the year the year of the woman，nineteen seventy five，but also I could say a big influence for women was the availability of the birth control field that came became available in the nineteen sixties。
0:22:45.240 --> 0:22:48.600
Jeannette Logan
Till the late nineteen sixties，and that was。
0:22:49.980 --> 0:22:56.140
Jeannette Logan
That certainly involved a lot，a lot more sexual freedom than before。
0:22:58.760 --> 0:22:59.280
Yuanming Tian
OK。
0:23:2.470 --> 0:23:3.270
Yuanming Tian
OK thanks。
0:23:5.30 --> 0:23:11.30
Jeannette Logan
To what extent did your generation believe that your parents notion about gender or family and dating were outdated？
0:23:12.160 --> 0:23:16.520
Jeannette Logan
Well yes，I agree with that statement，except that my mother。
0:23:18.240 --> 0:23:39.800
Jeannette Logan
She was not allowed to go to university when she she graduated the top of her class in high school and but it was at the beginning of the Second World War for her too，and it was important that she went out to work while my father went to overseas to fight。But。
0:23:51.610 --> 0:23:51.770
Yuanming Tian
oh
0:23:42.90 --> 0:23:53.170
Jeannette Logan
My mother was certainly in favor of education for all of all of our children and my father too。My family supported higher education，so that was important。
0:23:54.540 --> 0:23:54.660
Yuanming Tian
um？
0:23:55.440 --> 0:24:0.280
Jeannette Logan
What part of Canadian society was most out of whack in need of fixing？
0:24:2.280 --> 0:24:7.600
Jeannette Logan
Good question。Oh well，job opportunities，job opportunities were poor for women。
0:24:9.400 --> 0:24:9.520
Jeannette Logan
I。
0:24:9.740 --> 0:24:14.780
Jeannette Logan
Could remember，and II could quote you when。
0:24:15.160 --> 0:24:26.280
Jeannette Logan
For a job as a medical because I studied sciences and I had worked in medical labs at a hospital and also at clinics。
0:24:28.160 --> 0:24:57.760
Jeannette Logan
I could I could take blood and other kinds of and do analysis，and I applied for a job。This is before I started teaching。I applied for a job，is to work in a laboratory and the man interviewing me told actually said to me，why would I hire you？You will just get married and have children and I won't have an employee anymore。I was twenty one years old and this is what he。
0:24:59.20 --> 0:25:15.140
Jeannette Logan
He told me at the interview，so that was not very encouraging。I have to admit，so that's what I decided to go to，to go to teachers college because I wanted to help the next generation of children know more about science。So that's when I started teaching science in school。
0:25:17.500 --> 0:25:20.660
Jeannette Logan
So I actually proved them wrong。I worked my whole life。
0:25:23.290 --> 0:25:23.770
Yuanming Tian
Yeah。
0:25:25.980 --> 0:25:43.620
Jeannette Logan
But there certainly was a glass ceiling that was II counted that throat in my whole career when I was still at university，I my original intentions were to be be a doctor and coming out of high。
0:25:51.40 --> 0:25:51.160
Yuanming Tian
。
0:25:44.180 --> 0:25:51.260
Jeannette Logan
It's a valedictorian of my class and I had been accepted at three universities and。
0:25:54.50 --> 0:25:57.810
Jeannette Logan
Throttle，Queens and western，and。
0:25:59.610 --> 0:26:2.90
Jeannette Logan
But western offered me a very good scholarship。
0:26:3.770 --> 0:26:16.410
Jeannette Logan
And my I was the eldest of six children and I thought that would be really helpful to have the scholarship，so I accepted their invitation to go to western，and then I discovered that。
0:26:18.290 --> 0:26:32.50
Jeannette Logan
That I wouldn't be going into what was called pre Med in those days I had。I was going into AA standard science program and then I had to reapply for medical school after two years。
0:26:33.350 --> 0:26:56.790
Jeannette Logan
And when I reapplied after two years，I did not get in。They had a quota on the number of women in in medical school at western。I think it was the same everywhere，but only twenty percent of the class could be female，so eighty percent of class was male and twenty percent was female。And my。
0:26:58.50 --> 0:27:12.290
Jeannette Logan
Grades uh，I had seventy four point something percent，but that was not good enough。I had male colleagues in my chemistry class who got in with sixty six percent，but I couldn't get in with with seventy four。
0:27:14.290 --> 0:27:22.10
Jeannette Logan
So I continued on in chemistry and graduated，but I didn't want to work in a laboratory，so that's how I ended up。
0:27:22.870 --> 0:27:27.870
Jeannette Logan
Teaching but II don't regret it though I enjoy the teaching。
0:27:30.780 --> 0:27:36.260
Jeannette Logan
OK，so where are we at that？That was out of whack，that's for sure，and that was injustice too。
0:27:37.650 --> 0:27:38.850
Yuanming Tian
I also like teaching。
0:27:39.820 --> 0:27:44.540
Jeannette Logan
You feel that the political system was democratic，fair and responsive to citizens needs。
0:27:46.220 --> 0:27:51.180
Jeannette Logan
Well，I was quite involved with politics too。In those days，I certainly campaigned for。
0:27:52.920 --> 0:27:57.440
Jeannette Logan
For for Pierre Elliott Trudeau。I was part of the youth。
0:27:59.280 --> 0:28:29.360
Jeannette Logan
Do you use campaigning for for，uh，during that election？Um so II，actually my，my，my family was quite involved with politics at the local level，so it wasn't unusual，so I was I we we all look forward to having Pierre Trudeau as our as our Prime Minister。He seemed to be，he seemed to be more with it than。
0:28:30.820 --> 0:28:34.180
Jeannette Logan
Than some of the other ones once we had before。
0:28:40.270 --> 0:28:43.470
Jeannette Logan
OK，do you wanna go on to question number three now？
0:28:44.120 --> 0:28:44.600
Yuanming Tian
Yeah。
0:28:45.850 --> 0:28:58.730
Jeannette Logan
Cultural historians have argued that the introduction of the birth control pill，legalization of abortion and dissemination of the free love ideology change，gender relations and dating practice in the early seventies。
0:28:59.640 --> 0:29:1.520
Jeannette Logan
Yes，I would agree with that statement。
0:29:4.490 --> 0:29:10.210
Jeannette Logan
I definitely，uh。I first took the birth control pill because I had very painful。
0:29:12.10 --> 0:29:30.330
Jeannette Logan
Menstrual periods and I。But I can remember have being embarrassed going to pick up the the birth control pills at the drug store because the pharmacist or the person dispensing them would give you AA sly look about what，what are you going to do this weekend？I can remember being very。
0:29:31.390 --> 0:29:32.590
Jeannette Logan
Improper，if you ask me？
0:29:38.890 --> 0:29:49.130
Jeannette Logan
Uh date with with a lot of dating at university。Uh，there were lots of，uh，events like dances and uh other。
0:29:51.50 --> 0:30:2.490
Jeannette Logan
Other um social events that happened and I was a very social person，so I participated a lot of them and I had a number of boyfriends，but only。
0:30:2.710 --> 0:30:8.550
Jeannette Logan
Few of them became intimate boyfriends or very few to be honest，but some。
0:30:10.930 --> 0:30:11.450
Yuanming Tian
OK。
0:30:15.60 --> 0:30:17.540
Jeannette Logan
How did your generation look at family and marriage？
0:30:18.920 --> 0:30:21.600
Jeannette Logan
Well，yes，that was，um。
0:30:25.710 --> 0:30:26.710
Jeannette Logan
You basically，you know？
0:30:27.760 --> 0:30:31.720
Jeannette Logan
You're basically where it's supposed to get pregnant。Unfortunately，I did。
0:30:33.520 --> 0:30:37.520
Jeannette Logan
And getting it getting an abortion was even though it was supposedly legal。
0:30:39.260 --> 0:30:39.580
Jeannette Logan
Was not。
0:30:40.740 --> 0:30:57.660
Jeannette Logan
Not readily available。Let's put it that way and I ended up having um，an illegal abortion which was not a pleasant experience。Well，the experience wasn't too bad，but the aftermath was unpleasant and I ended up in the hospital，so that was。
0:30:58.370 --> 0:31:1.490
Jeannette Logan
Not a good experience，I have to admit。
0:31:2.600 --> 0:31:4.960
Jeannette Logan
But that was the way things were those days。
0:31:7.150 --> 0:31:7.630
Yuanming Tian
OK。
0:31:13.500 --> 0:31:22.380
Jeannette Logan
Ohh，I remember when my my sister got pregnant as well，and，um，this was well with a little bit after me，of course，but。
0:31:24.340 --> 0:31:26.340
Jeannette Logan
One and she。
0:31:26.720 --> 0:31:52.320
Jeannette Logan
Miscarriage and she went to the local hospital and I remember my mother refused to go and visit her in the hospital because we lived in a small town and she was not going to go and and show her face because her daughter was there who had a miscarriage so that sort of shows what the feeling was about having a child out of wedlock and not being married。
0:31:57.660 --> 0:32:3.220
Jeannette Logan
OK，so the next section is called sexuality and harassment。
0:32:6.300 --> 0:32:15.900
Jeannette Logan
Many universities today have been forced to police sexual harassment to what extent the university authorities monitor mixers and social events to keep women safe。
0:32:17.190 --> 0:32:21.830
Jeannette Logan
Well，I have to be honest，I never felt unsafe，so I'm not。
0:32:23.730 --> 0:32:26.650
Jeannette Logan
All the dances and whatever did have monitors there。
0:32:28.350 --> 0:32:30.110
Jeannette Logan
I would suspect if somebody。
0:32:31.360 --> 0:32:34.760
Jeannette Logan
Thought they were in trouble。They might be able to get some help。
0:32:36.960 --> 0:32:38.360
Jeannette Logan
But，but to be honest。
0:32:41.560 --> 0:32:42.440
Jeannette Logan
I didn't have。
0:32:44.520 --> 0:32:52.760
Jeannette Logan
Any problems at university that I recall feeling harassed or I was pretty good at looking after myself，I guess？
0:32:54.590 --> 0:32:55.750
Jeannette Logan
Speaking up for myself。
0:33:3.400 --> 0:33:16.480
Jeannette Logan
What our generation is interested in a free love movement。What was the perception of premarital sex on the campus in the Seventies？Was it viewed，negatively accepted or even encouraged？
0:33:18.560 --> 0:33:24.680
Jeannette Logan
I don't recall it being encouraged，but it wasn't。It wasn't unacceptable。
0:33:26.440 --> 0:33:33.720
Jeannette Logan
But when you say free love though，I certainly wouldn't have was never an adherent of of different sexual partners at the same time。
0:33:35.880 --> 0:33:47.760
Jeannette Logan
II was one one boyfriend at a time person and usually a boyfriend that I'd had for for a period of time，not just not just the first date kind of arrangement。
0:33:48.920 --> 0:33:50.240
Yuanming Tian
Ohh OK。
0:33:58.980 --> 0:34:2.140
Jeannette Logan
Of your parents generation worry about premarital sex。
0:34:4.70 --> 0:34:10.990
Jeannette Logan
Well，if they did，I don't remember them talking to me about it other than I guess it was sort of a understood that。
0:34:12.370 --> 0:34:14.530
Jeannette Logan
That was a dangerous thing to to do。
0:34:16.410 --> 0:34:20.450
Jeannette Logan
Because，well，unless you were，unless you were on the birth control pill。
0:34:22.630 --> 0:34:26.870
Jeannette Logan
Which once it was available，I was，I was，I was on the birth control pill。
0:34:47.10 --> 0:34:47.130
Yuanming Tian
Huh？
0:34:28.330 --> 0:34:58.50
Jeannette Logan
Years like all the time，but although I do remember these，they used to say that you shouldn't stay on the brisket tool for for a long period of time and they advised you to get off it for a couple of months each year。That that's what I got pregnant。That's what I remember，and I could tell you that unfortunately，poorest poor sexual education didn't help my boyfriend at the time，who had been a boyfriend for quite some time。
0:34:59.630 --> 0:35:24.30
Jeannette Logan
Didn't realize that he could impregnate me before he had an orgasm，so he would determine ignorant because he didn't know that he didn't know that information，but that was that was the cause of me getting pregnant because he was unaware even though and I can remember I tried to talk him out of it，but that didn't work。Come to think of it。
0:35:25.120 --> 0:35:26.600
Yuanming Tian
OK no problem。
0:35:29.690 --> 0:35:32.10
Yuanming Tian
It shouldn't be all finished。
0:35:33.620 --> 0:35:35.340
Jeannette Logan
Have I answered all the questions now？
0:35:36.550 --> 0:35:38.590
Yuanming Tian
Uh，maybe no question。
0:35:39.990 --> 0:35:41.910
Yuanming Tian
Let me see just a second。
0:35:42.920 --> 0:35:43.40
Yuanming Tian
um。
0:35:44.410 --> 0:35:46.650
Yuanming Tian
Just a second I want to see。
0:35:48.250 --> 0:35:49.730
Yuanming Tian
Maybe it's no question。
0:35:50.220 --> 0:35:51.140
Jeannette Logan
No more questions。
0:35:51.580 --> 0:35:52.580
Yuanming Tian
Yeah，maybe，um？
0:35:53.110 --> 0:35:53.470
Jeannette Logan
Maybe。
0:35:58.40 --> 0:36:0.440
Jeannette Logan
Are you asking？Is there anything else I wish to add？
0:36:5.450 --> 0:36:8.530
Yuanming Tian
Uh，yeah，yeah，you can。You can do it。
0:36:14.260 --> 0:36:25.300
Jeannette Logan
Well，um，I would say that nineteen seventies was a，um。There were a lot of things happening in the nineteen seventies，not just with the women's liberation。
0:36:27.60 --> 0:36:33.660
Jeannette Logan
The other thing that was that was coming on board then was talk about the environment。
0:36:35.700 --> 0:36:39.460
Jeannette Logan
We were already having started。
0:36:39.680 --> 0:36:47.920
Jeannette Logan
I can remember I was recycling bottles and cans and papers from the beginning in the nineteen seventies in Ottawa。
0:36:49.570 --> 0:36:49.810
Yuanming Tian
OK。
0:36:49.300 --> 0:36:56.60
Jeannette Logan
Um，I lived in，uh，I lived in Ottawa during the nineteen seventies，and um。
0:36:57.900 --> 0:36:59.180
Jeannette Logan
And I also remember。
0:37:0.780 --> 0:37:10.620
Jeannette Logan
Learning about because I worked at the Ontario Science Center at one point in Toronto，and we had AA new。
0:37:10.700 --> 0:37:12.860
Jeannette Logan
Exhibition area called。
0:37:15.140 --> 0:37:29.980
Jeannette Logan
Planet earth and it was based on ecology，so I learned about ecology in the relationship between the environment and and everything in the environment，and I。
0:37:30.680 --> 0:37:42.120
Jeannette Logan
Learned about groups of people that were working to alert us to the problems that were appearing in our environment，and there was a。
0:37:44.100 --> 0:37:46.540
Jeannette Logan
Group in Switzerland，I think。
0:37:50.150 --> 0:38:2.670
Jeannette Logan
I'm trying to know what they were called though，but they。They produced a book called limits to growth，and if I remember correctly it was published in nineteen seventy five and it basically said that。
0:38:4.550 --> 0:38:16.190
Jeannette Logan
We couldn't keep on just thinking we could grow bigger and better，bigger and better every year and not destroy the environment basically so。
0:38:16.610 --> 0:38:22.730
Jeannette Logan
And Dr Suzuki was David Suzuki was was beginning in those years。
0:38:24.530 --> 0:38:27.930
Jeannette Logan
He he was the original produc。
0:38:28.610 --> 0:38:35.10
Jeannette Logan
The radio program called quirks and quarks，which is on CBC radio still today。
0:38:36.270 --> 0:38:45.710
Jeannette Logan
And um and and he was talking about the environment back back then，and so when I，my career towards。
0:38:47.550 --> 0:38:48.510
Jeannette Logan
Towards the end。
0:38:51.350 --> 0:39:12.670
Jeannette Logan
I was working in the field of environment and and this was because of what I learned back in the nineteen seventies。I was now into the nineteen nineties，but I was really conscious of of the concern for the environment and look at us。Look at us now like。
0:39:14.670 --> 0:39:27.310
Jeannette Logan
How many，how many more years？I would agree about？Thirty years later，after the nineteen nineties and we're talking about a climate crisis，but we were already talking about the potential for a climate crisis in the nineteen seventies，so。
0:39:29.70 --> 0:39:36.30
Jeannette Logan
It was a very important decade if you asked me and I。
0:39:36.230 --> 0:39:38.230
Jeannette Logan
At A at a very significant。
0:39:38.690 --> 0:39:48.290
Jeannette Logan
On not only my life personally，but also my career and and my activity，my activism today。
0:39:50.70 --> 0:39:56.150
Jeannette Logan
I am still active in in society，trying to help the environment and。
0:39:57.350 --> 0:40:1.590
Jeannette Logan
Other important things。So like I said，that's about all I wanted to say。
0:40:3.600 --> 0:40:4.880
Yuanming Tian
OK sounds good。
0:40:8.90 --> 0:40:18.50
Jeannette Logan
Well，thank you。Thank you，Philip。Um for giving me this opportunity to share my history，I really enjoyed it and I hope I haven't forgotten anything significant。
0:40:18.890 --> 0:40:23.890
Yuanming Tian
Ohh yeah yeah I buy I buy。
0:40:24.110 --> 0:40:47.510
Yuanming Tian
Sir，you give me a opportunity to now，uh，the Canada history because I'm international student，so II prefer to now other countries history such as my hometown country，my hometown history，so I don't I。
0:40:48.490 --> 0:40:56.930
Yuanming Tian
um，clear the Kandahar history，but you tell me today，so I'm very thank you，um，I thank you very much。
0:40:59.430 --> 0:40:59.630
Yuanming Tian
um？
0:41:0.810 --> 0:41:1.290
Yuanming Tian
OK。
0:41:2.220 --> 0:41:2.380
Yuanming Tian
um？
0:41:1.0 --> 0:41:30.680
Jeannette Logan
Thank you。Thank you for this and thank you for your efforts Philip and uh content。I hope I also enjoy history even though I studied sciences。Um，I found out as an adult later that I didn't know enough about history，so I've I've read quite a bit of his history for Canada and other countries as well，and it's a it's a。It's a strong interest of mine amongst other interests。
0:41:32.40 --> 0:41:32.640
Jeannette Logan
Bye bye for now。
0:41:33.280 --> 0:41:34.440
Yuanming Tian
OKbye。
0:41:37.420 --> 0:41:38.780
Yuanming Tian
Have a nice day bye。
0:41:39.520 --> 0:41:40.120
Jeannette Logan
Goodbye。
0:41:40.730 --> 0:41:41.290
Yuanming Tian
um，bye

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Yuanming Tian
OK。
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Yuanming Tian
I want the interval question section one per。
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Yuanming Tian
um，section one，um。，um。
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Yuanming Tian
Impact，impact popular。
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Yuanming Tian
Popular。
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Yuanming Tian
Culture。
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Yuanming Tian
In impact impact，the popular culture。
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Yuanming Tian
Yeah。
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Jeannette Logan
If are you saying impact IMPACT impact？
0:0:37.480 --> 0:0:38.920
Yuanming Tian
Yeah yeah impact。
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Jeannette Logan
Of popular culture。
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Yuanming Tian
OK。
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Yuanming Tian
um，let me see。
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Yuanming Tian
um？
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Yuanming Tian
There were these。
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Yuanming Tian
OK，，what，what？Where the most popular，uh，huh？Hang out sport spores on sports on of campus。
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Jeannette Logan
What were the most popular？
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Yuanming Tian
Hung hung uh hung out。
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Jeannette Logan
Hey Hangouts。
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Jeannette Logan
But。
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Yuanming Tian
Ohh yeah，yeah。Yeah。How to spots spots on？Yeah，an of a campus。
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Yuanming Tian
二一。
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Jeannette Logan
Ohh，my goodness，what so when when I was at university，what were the popular Hangouts？
0:1:35.440 --> 0:1:41.920
Yuanming Tian
Yeah yeah，uh，University of Ottawa in，uh，one。
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Yuanming Tian
What？
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Yuanming Tian
Nineteen seventies nineteen seven nineteen seventies。
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Jeannette Logan
In the nineteen seventies，popular Hangouts where？
0:1:55.590 --> 0:1:56.470
Jeannette Logan
For bars。
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Yuanming Tian
Ohh yeah。
0:2:0.210 --> 0:2:2.570
Jeannette Logan
Usually bars that had music。
0:2:5.360 --> 0:2:13.680
Jeannette Logan
Musicians playing in in the in the bars，and sometimes it was very loud and it was hard to talk。
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Yuanming Tian
OK，you can see anything because we have a lot of time。
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Yuanming Tian
um？
0:2:28.630 --> 0:2:29.70
Yuanming Tian
OK。
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Jeannette Logan
But I also，I also was involved with um activities where I would meet other people such as I sang and acquire with other people，and I did some。
0:2:47.940 --> 0:2:49.140
Jeannette Logan
With other people。
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Jeannette Logan
And。
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Jeannette Logan
I like to go to a cultural events like such as concerts and。
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Jeannette Logan
Art galleries。
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Yuanming Tian
OK sounds good。
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Yuanming Tian
OK。
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Yuanming Tian
Next next question，did you attend any leave music events during you university years？
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Jeannette Logan
Did I attend what？
0:3:33.230 --> 0:3:33.990
Yuanming Tian
Music。
0:3:36.250 --> 0:3:38.130
Yuanming Tian
Let me see music。
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Yuanming Tian
Events，yeah，music events，music events。
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Jeannette Logan
Musical events yes。
0:3:46.10 --> 0:3:46.370
Yuanming Tian
um？
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Jeannette Logan
II attended lots of rock concerts。
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Yuanming Tian
OK。
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Jeannette Logan
Huge rock concerts with。
0:3:55.260 --> 0:4:1.20
Jeannette Logan
But with hundreds of people sometimes outside if it was in the summer。
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Yuanming Tian
OK。
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Jeannette Logan
I attended a concert for Three Dog Night。I remember that。
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Jeannette Logan
Also folk folk music，I like folk music as well。
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Jeannette Logan
Gordon Lightfoot I'm pretty sure was even singing that then。
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Yuanming Tian
OK no problem。
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Yuanming Tian
um，I sent you this this interval question in mailbox in，communicate in，communicate box。You can see this question because I because I。
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Yuanming Tian
um。You can see communicate。Uh，you can you can see communicateumcommunicate box because II send you this interval question word。
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Jeannette Logan
Sorry，I didn't。I didn't get that you were saying something about communication。
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Yuanming Tian
Communication boxum。
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Yuanming Tian
Let me see。
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Yuanming Tian
um。
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Yuanming Tian
um？
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Yuanming Tian
Or chat chat you can see chat。
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Jeannette Logan
Ohh，I had to type。
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Yuanming Tian
Yeah。
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Jeannette Logan
Ohh，well，to be honest，I didn't do much typing。
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Jeannette Logan
Everything。What was happening back then？
0:5:27.850 --> 0:5:32.890
Jeannette Logan
Because，uh，if things needed to be typed，I had a secretary who typed typed。
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Jeannette Logan
Well，I learned I learned，um。
0:5:39.610 --> 0:5:45.170
Jeannette Logan
I learned how to type，you're perfectly right。I wasn't a good typist，but I did learn how to type。
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Jeannette Logan
What did they call it？
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Jeannette Logan
Like with with just with two two fingers not with all my fingers and I had to learn that when I got the job as a technical writer，that's right，OK？So when I became a technical writer，I had to learn how to type things and we had。
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Jeannette Logan
So we had a central computer。I remember that。
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Jeannette Logan
And we you，could you？
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Jeannette Logan
You could correct all your mistakes。I remember you learn how to correct your mistakes anyway。
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Jeannette Logan
But to be honest，I think I used to write out my texts in longhand first and my and the secretary would type it in for the first time and then I would edit it afterwards。That's what that was。What happened at the beginning？We didn't have personal computers。
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Yuanming Tian
OK。
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Jeannette Logan
I didn't have a personal computer for quite some time。I don't think，certainly not in the nineteen seventies。
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Yuanming Tian
OKumII send you a document in chat that's，that's，I mean，because I I'm afraid I will cause you to have a problem understanding，so I send I send this document in team team uh team uh in team chat。
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Jeannette Logan
You want to send me a document？
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Yuanming Tian
Yeah，yeah，I have sent you document in team chat，you can see。
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Jeannette Logan
Just a minute。
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Yuanming Tian
Yeah yeah。
0:7:32.890 --> 0:7:48.530
Yuanming Tian
In chat document this is all interval question because I am afraid I will cause you have a problem to understand，so I send you this document that that's，I mean。
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Yuanming Tian
Team chat。
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Jeannette Logan
I'm I'm looking on my phone to see if I see any。
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Jeannette Logan
You，you set you say you sent me some documents。
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Yuanming Tian
um。
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Yuanming Tian
You，you，you can see it。
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Yuanming Tian
I send you again。
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Jeannette Logan
Okay。
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Yuanming Tian
I send you OKOKOKOKOK。
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Jeannette Logan
Ohh，OK，but I thought something you sent me。
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Yuanming Tian
OK。
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Jeannette Logan
Then maybe stopping。
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Jeannette Logan
No，that's not bad。
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Jeannette Logan
Yeah。
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Jeannette Logan
Confidentiality。
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Jeannette Logan
Conversation participants。
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Yuanming Tian
um？
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Yuanming Tian
Do you see it？
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Jeannette Logan
I was starting to think maybe there was some。
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Jeannette Logan
Thank you for me。
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Jeannette Logan
I haven't found anything。
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Jeannette Logan
I haven't found anything here。
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Yuanming Tian
I sent you document inumin team in team chat。
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Yuanming Tian
um。Can you see it？
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Jeannette Logan
Ohh，it says just。
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Jeannette Logan
Why is it？No。
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Jeannette Logan
Ohh dear。
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Yuanming Tian
Chat box chat box。
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Yuanming Tian
Chat chat box in team。
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Yuanming Tian
II send you document about interval question to understand。
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Yuanming Tian
I send this the document in chat box in chat box in team。
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Jeannette Logan
Yeah，are you talking about question？
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Jeannette Logan
You you。
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Yuanming Tian
um，document。um，Adobe document about interval question。
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Jeannette Logan
Did you just send it now？
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Yuanming Tian
Yeah。
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Yuanming Tian
No，no，just now I send you。
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Jeannette Logan
Did you send it by e-mail？
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Yuanming Tian
No no no um chat box chat box in uh chat box in in in team。
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Yuanming Tian
You，you can。Yeah，you can see in team。
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Jeannette Logan
You checked，you checked it out in in teams。
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Yuanming Tian
Ohh yeah yeah。
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Jeannette Logan
Enjoy。
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Yuanming Tian
You can see chat box，um？
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Yuanming Tian
I can't e-mail to you。
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Jeannette Logan
OK。
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Yuanming Tian
um，but you could，um，but you，um，decor decorally to。
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Yuanming Tian
To see in bug in chat box in team。
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Jeannette Logan
So you're going to send me an e-mail，is that what you said？
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Yuanming Tian
Yeah，I sent you。
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Yuanming Tian
Are you see it？
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Yuanming Tian
This is all interval question，uh，are you see it？
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Jeannette Logan
So I don't see it yet。
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Yuanming Tian
II have send。
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Yuanming Tian
um，so I want，哎。So I want to continue my interval question。
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Yuanming Tian
偶太偶taiwa was a。
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Yuanming Tian
Was be。
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Yuanming Tian
Let me see。
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Yuanming Tian
Whatever is the one？
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Yuanming Tian
Bilingual or whatever is a bilingual school。How？
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Yuanming Tian
As because I want I afraid you don't understand，so I send you e-mail，can you see it？
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Jeannette Logan
You're sending me an e-mail？
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Yuanming Tian
Yeah。
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Jeannette Logan
Add it。
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Yuanming Tian
对okok okokok。
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Yuanming Tian
This is all interval question，um，just now II ask two questions。
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Yuanming Tian
You can，yeah。
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Yuanming Tian
um？
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Jeannette Logan
It says the main question is cultural historians have argued that television，Hollywood，popular music and a consumer culture built around automobiles created a more integrated North American popular culture otta。
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Jeannette Logan
Bilingual institution，and we want to better understand how anglophones and francophones related together。
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Jeannette Logan
There was less electronics and Canadian society during the Seventies。How？
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Jeannette Logan
Pleasure time structured。
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Yuanming Tian
OK。
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Jeannette Logan
And what did students do for fun in the nineteen seventies？OK so II answered，the one about the hang up hangout spots。
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Yuanming Tian
Yeah yeah，yeah，I know。
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Yuanming Tian
You answer two questions。Yeah。
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Jeannette Logan
Yeah and live a music？Yes，yes，we had lots of live music，which was great。
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Jeannette Logan
Now you're saying that Ottawa was a bilingual institution。
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Jeannette Logan
Back in the back in the Seventies，I mean，I studied。I studied French and high school。
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Jeannette Logan
But it was only when did I start？
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Jeannette Logan
Actually，I started studying French。
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Jeannette Logan
At in the evening classes again in in about nineteen seventy five。
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Jeannette Logan
And I。
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Jeannette Logan
I took conversational French classes。
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Jeannette Logan
And then in the early eighties，I。
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Jeannette Logan
I joined a sailing group where we most of the members were francophone，so I started really improving my French by the nineteen eighties and now I am fully bilingual。
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Jeannette Logan
I can read and write in in French。
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Yuanming Tian
OK sounds good。
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Yuanming Tian
um？
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Yuanming Tian
OK。
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Jeannette Logan
Did anglophones and francophones date each other during the nineteen seventies。
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Jeannette Logan
Probably not very much。
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Yuanming Tian
um？
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Jeannette Logan
I didn't have any。
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Jeannette Logan
Francophone boyfriends that I'm aware of，I don't think so。
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Jeannette Logan
Use the park party culture。
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Jeannette Logan
One of the things I remember in the in the nineteen seventies was。
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Jeannette Logan
I was not a member of a sorority or a fraternity，but a lot of the boys wear and they used to have what they call these frat parties。
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Jeannette Logan
At the frat house fraternity house，and they were really。
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Jeannette Logan
There was a lot of drinking alcohol in those places and in those days I did not drink very much。Thank goodness，but I certainly remember。
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Jeannette Logan
The some of the boys getting very，very drunk。I remember something called purple Jesus it was。It was a type of alcohol that they mixed with grape juice and it was horrible。
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Jeannette Logan
So I did not drink very much of it，but other people did，um，the other thing I remember was wine。
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Jeannette Logan
Very sweet in those days，people drank very sweet wine，which I do not like it all and now I get very dry wine now。
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Yuanming Tian
Yeah，I know，okay？
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Jeannette Logan
All the Vietnam War that。
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Jeannette Logan
Was an issue。
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Jeannette Logan
We had。
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Jeannette Logan
Young men that were called draft dodgers，they came up to Canada and I certainly knew some draft dodgers。
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Jeannette Logan
In the Seventies。
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Jeannette Logan
And one place where I worked，yes，that was in the Seventies we had some draft dodgers that were employed at at the at the I worked at the Ontario Science Center，and we had some American young men working there in the audio visual department。I remember that。
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Jeannette Logan
Yeah，the Vietnam War that was awful。
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Jeannette Logan
I remember a cousin of mine and who lives in the states，was drafted，but thank goodness he had flat feet for the so they didn't accept them as a soldier，so he didn't have to go to Vietnam。But I remember。
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Yuanming Tian
um？
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Yuanming Tian
Okay。
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Jeannette Logan
Oh rock and roll that was very big。Um。
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Jeannette Logan
The friends who are in a rock and roll band and these were friends from from from my high school back in Perry sound and。
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Jeannette Logan
They had AA band in the beginning called the Georgian four，which was named after a Georgian Bay。That's where we came from near Georgia Bay and then later on they actually recorded music under the name chemos DHIMO。And if you go on to YouTube today，you can hear chemo。
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Jeannette Logan
Now。
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Yuanming Tian
um？
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Yuanming Tian
OK thanks。
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Jeannette Logan
Youth culture。
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Yuanming Tian
Yeah。
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Jeannette Logan
Um，there was。I wasn't aware of any kind of drugs other than cigarettes。Cigarettes were all my goodness when I talked about the bars，that was one of the worst things about the bars that was so smoky，it was awful。I did。I never smoked。
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Jeannette Logan
So I guess I probably tried a little marijuana now and then，but I didn't really。
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Yuanming Tian
Yeah，and。
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Jeannette Logan
I didn't really adopt any drugs at all。
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Yuanming Tian
Yeah，I think。
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Jeannette Logan
But I do remember to talk about psychedelic drugs like LSD。That was。
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Jeannette Logan
Talked about，but I was not familiar of any。
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Jeannette Logan
Any um use of LSD in my friend。
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Jeannette Logan
Now the next section is called the female experience。
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Yuanming Tian
Yeah，female experience。
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Jeannette Logan
It says cultural historian to written a lot about what they call the second wave feminism。
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Yuanming Tian
um？
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Jeannette Logan
That as part of the counter coach of movement women during this early seventies，sought to breakdown gender barriers。Does this argument resonate with your experience？Yes，very much so。
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Jeannette Logan
I was certainly a。
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Jeannette Logan
A woman of that second wave feminism，I read a lot about it。
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Jeannette Logan
I never changed my name。Jeanette Logan is my birthday，even though I have been be。
0:21:44.580 --> 0:21:52.700
Jeannette Logan
II never changed my name。I always thought it was important to keep my own identity。I always had my own bank accounts。
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Jeannette Logan
That was important，but also in the nineteen seventy。
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Jeannette Logan
We were leading up to the the royal Commission on the status of women in the nineteen seventies here in Canada，and those were very important women to us。They。
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Jeannette Logan
The way to to our freedom。
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Jeannette Logan
Or，our independent。That's right that way。
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Jeannette Logan
And in nineteen seventy five，that was the year the year of the woman，nineteen seventy five，but also I could say a big influence for women was the availability of the birth control field that came became available in the nineteen sixties。
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Jeannette Logan
Till the late nineteen sixties，and that was。
0:22:49.980 --> 0:22:56.140
Jeannette Logan
That certainly involved a lot，a lot more sexual freedom than before。
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Yuanming Tian
OK。
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Yuanming Tian
OK thanks。
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Jeannette Logan
To what extent did your generation believe that your parents notion about gender or family and dating were outdated？
0:23:12.160 --> 0:23:16.520
Jeannette Logan
Well yes，I agree with that statement，except that my mother。
0:23:18.240 --> 0:23:39.800
Jeannette Logan
She was not allowed to go to university when she she graduated the top of her class in high school and but it was at the beginning of the Second World War for her too，and it was important that she went out to work while my father went to overseas to fight。But。
0:23:51.610 --> 0:23:51.770
Yuanming Tian
oh
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Jeannette Logan
My mother was certainly in favor of education for all of all of our children and my father too。My family supported higher education，so that was important。
0:23:54.540 --> 0:23:54.660
Yuanming Tian
um？
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Jeannette Logan
What part of Canadian society was most out of whack in need of fixing？
0:24:2.280 --> 0:24:7.600
Jeannette Logan
Good question。Oh well，job opportunities，job opportunities were poor for women。
0:24:9.400 --> 0:24:9.520
Jeannette Logan
I。
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Jeannette Logan
Could remember，and II could quote you when。
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Jeannette Logan
For a job as a medical because I studied sciences and I had worked in medical labs at a hospital and also at clinics。
0:24:28.160 --> 0:24:57.760
Jeannette Logan
I could I could take blood and other kinds of and do analysis，and I applied for a job。This is before I started teaching。I applied for a job，is to work in a laboratory and the man interviewing me told actually said to me，why would I hire you？You will just get married and have children and I won't have an employee anymore。I was twenty one years old and this is what he。
0:24:59.20 --> 0:25:15.140
Jeannette Logan
He told me at the interview，so that was not very encouraging。I have to admit，so that's what I decided to go to，to go to teachers college because I wanted to help the next generation of children know more about science。So that's when I started teaching science in school。
0:25:17.500 --> 0:25:20.660
Jeannette Logan
So I actually proved them wrong。I worked my whole life。
0:25:23.290 --> 0:25:23.770
Yuanming Tian
Yeah。
0:25:25.980 --> 0:25:43.620
Jeannette Logan
But there certainly was a glass ceiling that was II counted that throat in my whole career when I was still at university，I my original intentions were to be be a doctor and coming out of high。
0:25:51.40 --> 0:25:51.160
Yuanming Tian
。
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Jeannette Logan
It's a valedictorian of my class and I had been accepted at three universities and。
0:25:54.50 --> 0:25:57.810
Jeannette Logan
Throttle，Queens and western，and。
0:25:59.610 --> 0:26:2.90
Jeannette Logan
But western offered me a very good scholarship。
0:26:3.770 --> 0:26:16.410
Jeannette Logan
And my I was the eldest of six children and I thought that would be really helpful to have the scholarship，so I accepted their invitation to go to western，and then I discovered that。
0:26:18.290 --> 0:26:32.50
Jeannette Logan
That I wouldn't be going into what was called pre Med in those days I had。I was going into AA standard science program and then I had to reapply for medical school after two years。
0:26:33.350 --> 0:26:56.790
Jeannette Logan
And when I reapplied after two years，I did not get in。They had a quota on the number of women in in medical school at western。I think it was the same everywhere，but only twenty percent of the class could be female，so eighty percent of class was male and twenty percent was female。And my。
0:26:58.50 --> 0:27:12.290
Jeannette Logan
Grades uh，I had seventy four point something percent，but that was not good enough。I had male colleagues in my chemistry class who got in with sixty six percent，but I couldn't get in with with seventy four。
0:27:14.290 --> 0:27:22.10
Jeannette Logan
So I continued on in chemistry and graduated，but I didn't want to work in a laboratory，so that's how I ended up。
0:27:22.870 --> 0:27:27.870
Jeannette Logan
Teaching but II don't regret it though I enjoy the teaching。
0:27:30.780 --> 0:27:36.260
Jeannette Logan
OK，so where are we at that？That was out of whack，that's for sure，and that was injustice too。
0:27:37.650 --> 0:27:38.850
Yuanming Tian
I also like teaching。
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Jeannette Logan
You feel that the political system was democratic，fair and responsive to citizens needs。
0:27:46.220 --> 0:27:51.180
Jeannette Logan
Well，I was quite involved with politics too。In those days，I certainly campaigned for。
0:27:52.920 --> 0:27:57.440
Jeannette Logan
For for Pierre Elliott Trudeau。I was part of the youth。
0:27:59.280 --> 0:28:29.360
Jeannette Logan
Do you use campaigning for for，uh，during that election？Um so II，actually my，my，my family was quite involved with politics at the local level，so it wasn't unusual，so I was I we we all look forward to having Pierre Trudeau as our as our Prime Minister。He seemed to be，he seemed to be more with it than。
0:28:30.820 --> 0:28:34.180
Jeannette Logan
Than some of the other ones once we had before。
0:28:40.270 --> 0:28:43.470
Jeannette Logan
OK，do you wanna go on to question number three now？
0:28:44.120 --> 0:28:44.600
Yuanming Tian
Yeah。
0:28:45.850 --> 0:28:58.730
Jeannette Logan
Cultural historians have argued that the introduction of the birth control pill，legalization of abortion and dissemination of the free love ideology change，gender relations and dating practice in the early seventies。
0:28:59.640 --> 0:29:1.520
Jeannette Logan
Yes，I would agree with that statement。
0:29:4.490 --> 0:29:10.210
Jeannette Logan
I definitely，uh。I first took the birth control pill because I had very painful。
0:29:12.10 --> 0:29:30.330
Jeannette Logan
Menstrual periods and I。But I can remember have being embarrassed going to pick up the the birth control pills at the drug store because the pharmacist or the person dispensing them would give you AA sly look about what，what are you going to do this weekend？I can remember being very。
0:29:31.390 --> 0:29:32.590
Jeannette Logan
Improper，if you ask me？
0:29:38.890 --> 0:29:49.130
Jeannette Logan
Uh date with with a lot of dating at university。Uh，there were lots of，uh，events like dances and uh other。
0:29:51.50 --> 0:30:2.490
Jeannette Logan
Other um social events that happened and I was a very social person，so I participated a lot of them and I had a number of boyfriends，but only。
0:30:2.710 --> 0:30:8.550
Jeannette Logan
Few of them became intimate boyfriends or very few to be honest，but some。
0:30:10.930 --> 0:30:11.450
Yuanming Tian
OK。
0:30:15.60 --> 0:30:17.540
Jeannette Logan
How did your generation look at family and marriage？
0:30:18.920 --> 0:30:21.600
Jeannette Logan
Well，yes，that was，um。
0:30:25.710 --> 0:30:26.710
Jeannette Logan
You basically，you know？
0:30:27.760 --> 0:30:31.720
Jeannette Logan
You're basically where it's supposed to get pregnant。Unfortunately，I did。
0:30:33.520 --> 0:30:37.520
Jeannette Logan
And getting it getting an abortion was even though it was supposedly legal。
0:30:39.260 --> 0:30:39.580
Jeannette Logan
Was not。
0:30:40.740 --> 0:30:57.660
Jeannette Logan
Not readily available。Let's put it that way and I ended up having um，an illegal abortion which was not a pleasant experience。Well，the experience wasn't too bad，but the aftermath was unpleasant and I ended up in the hospital，so that was。
0:30:58.370 --> 0:31:1.490
Jeannette Logan
Not a good experience，I have to admit。
0:31:2.600 --> 0:31:4.960
Jeannette Logan
But that was the way things were those days。
0:31:7.150 --> 0:31:7.630
Yuanming Tian
OK。
0:31:13.500 --> 0:31:22.380
Jeannette Logan
Ohh，I remember when my my sister got pregnant as well，and，um，this was well with a little bit after me，of course，but。
0:31:24.340 --> 0:31:26.340
Jeannette Logan
One and she。
0:31:26.720 --> 0:31:52.320
Jeannette Logan
Miscarriage and she went to the local hospital and I remember my mother refused to go and visit her in the hospital because we lived in a small town and she was not going to go and and show her face because her daughter was there who had a miscarriage so that sort of shows what the feeling was about having a child out of wedlock and not being married。
0:31:57.660 --> 0:32:3.220
Jeannette Logan
OK，so the next section is called sexuality and harassment。
0:32:6.300 --> 0:32:15.900
Jeannette Logan
Many universities today have been forced to police sexual harassment to what extent the university authorities monitor mixers and social events to keep women safe。
0:32:17.190 --> 0:32:21.830
Jeannette Logan
Well，I have to be honest，I never felt unsafe，so I'm not。
0:32:23.730 --> 0:32:26.650
Jeannette Logan
All the dances and whatever did have monitors there。
0:32:28.350 --> 0:32:30.110
Jeannette Logan
I would suspect if somebody。
0:32:31.360 --> 0:32:34.760
Jeannette Logan
Thought they were in trouble。They might be able to get some help。
0:32:36.960 --> 0:32:38.360
Jeannette Logan
But，but to be honest。
0:32:41.560 --> 0:32:42.440
Jeannette Logan
I didn't have。
0:32:44.520 --> 0:32:52.760
Jeannette Logan
Any problems at university that I recall feeling harassed or I was pretty good at looking after myself，I guess？
0:32:54.590 --> 0:32:55.750
Jeannette Logan
Speaking up for myself。
0:33:3.400 --> 0:33:16.480
Jeannette Logan
What our generation is interested in a free love movement。What was the perception of premarital sex on the campus in the Seventies？Was it viewed，negatively accepted or even encouraged？
0:33:18.560 --> 0:33:24.680
Jeannette Logan
I don't recall it being encouraged，but it wasn't。It wasn't unacceptable。
0:33:26.440 --> 0:33:33.720
Jeannette Logan
But when you say free love though，I certainly wouldn't have was never an adherent of of different sexual partners at the same time。
0:33:35.880 --> 0:33:47.760
Jeannette Logan
II was one one boyfriend at a time person and usually a boyfriend that I'd had for for a period of time，not just not just the first date kind of arrangement。
0:33:48.920 --> 0:33:50.240
Yuanming Tian
Ohh OK。
0:33:58.980 --> 0:34:2.140
Jeannette Logan
Of your parents generation worry about premarital sex。
0:34:4.70 --> 0:34:10.990
Jeannette Logan
Well，if they did，I don't remember them talking to me about it other than I guess it was sort of a understood that。
0:34:12.370 --> 0:34:14.530
Jeannette Logan
That was a dangerous thing to to do。
0:34:16.410 --> 0:34:20.450
Jeannette Logan
Because，well，unless you were，unless you were on the birth control pill。
0:34:22.630 --> 0:34:26.870
Jeannette Logan
Which once it was available，I was，I was，I was on the birth control pill。
0:34:47.10 --> 0:34:47.130
Yuanming Tian
Huh？
0:34:28.330 --> 0:34:58.50
Jeannette Logan
Years like all the time，but although I do remember these，they used to say that you shouldn't stay on the brisket tool for for a long period of time and they advised you to get off it for a couple of months each year。That that's what I got pregnant。That's what I remember，and I could tell you that unfortunately，poorest poor sexual education didn't help my boyfriend at the time，who had been a boyfriend for quite some time。
0:34:59.630 --> 0:35:24.30
Jeannette Logan
Didn't realize that he could impregnate me before he had an orgasm，so he would determine ignorant because he didn't know that he didn't know that information，but that was that was the cause of me getting pregnant because he was unaware even though and I can remember I tried to talk him out of it，but that didn't work。Come to think of it。
0:35:25.120 --> 0:35:26.600
Yuanming Tian
OK no problem。
0:35:29.690 --> 0:35:32.10
Yuanming Tian
It shouldn't be all finished。
0:35:33.620 --> 0:35:35.340
Jeannette Logan
Have I answered all the questions now？
0:35:36.550 --> 0:35:38.590
Yuanming Tian
Uh，maybe no question。
0:35:39.990 --> 0:35:41.910
Yuanming Tian
Let me see just a second。
0:35:42.920 --> 0:35:43.40
Yuanming Tian
um。
0:35:44.410 --> 0:35:46.650
Yuanming Tian
Just a second I want to see。
0:35:48.250 --> 0:35:49.730
Yuanming Tian
Maybe it's no question。
0:35:50.220 --> 0:35:51.140
Jeannette Logan
No more questions。
0:35:51.580 --> 0:35:52.580
Yuanming Tian
Yeah，maybe，um？
0:35:53.110 --> 0:35:53.470
Jeannette Logan
Maybe。
0:35:58.40 --> 0:36:0.440
Jeannette Logan
Are you asking？Is there anything else I wish to add？
0:36:5.450 --> 0:36:8.530
Yuanming Tian
Uh，yeah，yeah，you can。You can do it。
0:36:14.260 --> 0:36:25.300
Jeannette Logan
Well，um，I would say that nineteen seventies was a，um。There were a lot of things happening in the nineteen seventies，not just with the women's liberation。
0:36:27.60 --> 0:36:33.660
Jeannette Logan
The other thing that was that was coming on board then was talk about the environment。
0:36:35.700 --> 0:36:39.460
Jeannette Logan
We were already having started。
0:36:39.680 --> 0:36:47.920
Jeannette Logan
I can remember I was recycling bottles and cans and papers from the beginning in the nineteen seventies in Ottawa。
0:36:49.570 --> 0:36:49.810
Yuanming Tian
OK。
0:36:49.300 --> 0:36:56.60
Jeannette Logan
Um，I lived in，uh，I lived in Ottawa during the nineteen seventies，and um。
0:36:57.900 --> 0:36:59.180
Jeannette Logan
And I also remember。
0:37:0.780 --> 0:37:10.620
Jeannette Logan
Learning about because I worked at the Ontario Science Center at one point in Toronto，and we had AA new。
0:37:10.700 --> 0:37:12.860
Jeannette Logan
Exhibition area called。
0:37:15.140 --> 0:37:29.980
Jeannette Logan
Planet earth and it was based on ecology，so I learned about ecology in the relationship between the environment and and everything in the environment，and I。
0:37:30.680 --> 0:37:42.120
Jeannette Logan
Learned about groups of people that were working to alert us to the problems that were appearing in our environment，and there was a。
0:37:44.100 --> 0:37:46.540
Jeannette Logan
Group in Switzerland，I think。
0:37:50.150 --> 0:38:2.670
Jeannette Logan
I'm trying to know what they were called though，but they。They produced a book called limits to growth，and if I remember correctly it was published in nineteen seventy five and it basically said that。
0:38:4.550 --> 0:38:16.190
Jeannette Logan
We couldn't keep on just thinking we could grow bigger and better，bigger and better every year and not destroy the environment basically so。
0:38:16.610 --> 0:38:22.730
Jeannette Logan
And Dr Suzuki was David Suzuki was was beginning in those years。
0:38:24.530 --> 0:38:27.930
Jeannette Logan
He he was the original produc。
0:38:28.610 --> 0:38:35.10
Jeannette Logan
The radio program called quirks and quarks，which is on CBC radio still today。
0:38:36.270 --> 0:38:45.710
Jeannette Logan
And um and and he was talking about the environment back back then，and so when I，my career towards。
0:38:47.550 --> 0:38:48.510
Jeannette Logan
Towards the end。
0:38:51.350 --> 0:39:12.670
Jeannette Logan
I was working in the field of environment and and this was because of what I learned back in the nineteen seventies。I was now into the nineteen nineties，but I was really conscious of of the concern for the environment and look at us。Look at us now like。
0:39:14.670 --> 0:39:27.310
Jeannette Logan
How many，how many more years？I would agree about？Thirty years later，after the nineteen nineties and we're talking about a climate crisis，but we were already talking about the potential for a climate crisis in the nineteen seventies，so。
0:39:29.70 --> 0:39:36.30
Jeannette Logan
It was a very important decade if you asked me and I。
0:39:36.230 --> 0:39:38.230
Jeannette Logan
At A at a very significant。
0:39:38.690 --> 0:39:48.290
Jeannette Logan
On not only my life personally，but also my career and and my activity，my activism today。
0:39:50.70 --> 0:39:56.150
Jeannette Logan
I am still active in in society，trying to help the environment and。
0:39:57.350 --> 0:40:1.590
Jeannette Logan
Other important things。So like I said，that's about all I wanted to say。
0:40:3.600 --> 0:40:4.880
Yuanming Tian
OK sounds good。
0:40:8.90 --> 0:40:18.50
Jeannette Logan
Well，thank you。Thank you，Philip。Um for giving me this opportunity to share my history，I really enjoyed it and I hope I haven't forgotten anything significant。
0:40:18.890 --> 0:40:23.890
Yuanming Tian
Ohh yeah yeah I buy I buy。
0:40:24.110 --> 0:40:47.510
Yuanming Tian
Sir，you give me a opportunity to now，uh，the Canada history because I'm international student，so II prefer to now other countries history such as my hometown country，my hometown history，so I don't I。
0:40:48.490 --> 0:40:56.930
Yuanming Tian
um，clear the Kandahar history，but you tell me today，so I'm very thank you，um，I thank you very much。
0:40:59.430 --> 0:40:59.630
Yuanming Tian
um？
0:41:0.810 --> 0:41:1.290
Yuanming Tian
OK。
0:41:2.220 --> 0:41:2.380
Yuanming Tian
um？
0:41:1.0 --> 0:41:30.680
Jeannette Logan
Thank you。Thank you for this and thank you for your efforts Philip and uh content。I hope I also enjoy history even though I studied sciences。Um，I found out as an adult later that I didn't know enough about history，so I've I've read quite a bit of his history for Canada and other countries as well，and it's a it's a。It's a strong interest of mine amongst other interests。
0:41:32.40 --> 0:41:32.640
Jeannette Logan
Bye bye for now。
0:41:33.280 --> 0:41:34.440
Yuanming Tian
OKbye。
0:41:37.420 --> 0:41:38.780
Yuanming Tian
Have a nice day bye。
0:41:39.520 --> 0:41:40.120
Jeannette Logan
Goodbye。
0:41:40.730 --> 0:41:41.290
Yuanming Tian
um，bye